I wrote my little piece about the NYC startup scene barely a week ago. In the past few days, there have been several new articles on the topic and all the back-and-forth could use a tidy summary.
On February 1st, Chris Dixon (Hunch) wrote The NYC tech scene is exploding. Summarized:
- There are tons of interesting NYC startups, and they’re diversifying beyond media (HuffPo, Gawker) to more “California-style” startups (Foursquare, Boxee, Hunch).
- NYC now has a good number of seed investors, mid-size VCs, and big VCs.
- NYC needs a couple of runaway successes (like Paypal, Google, or Facebook) with big exits so their employees can leave and create new companies.
Last Friday (2/26), Matt Mireles (SpeakerText) stirred the pot on Silicon Alley Insider with Face It: NYC Is Not The Best Place For A Startup. His arguments:
- Too many of the VCs in New York are former Wall Streeters who don’t get how to build companies.
- There are only a few good angel investors and they’re hard to find.
- Because seed money is so hard to come by, startups have to spend more time chasing money and less time working on their products.
- Technical talent is scarce in NYC, and too many of the good engineers are used to Wall Street wages, perks, and bonuses.
While Mireles raises some interesting discussion points, the piece almost comes off like an attempt to grab angel and VC attention for his own startup. The last paragraph:
Ok, so I don’t know if this conclusion is actually true, so I’m heading out the California on Monday to test it. Honestly, I hope I’m wrong, because I hate driving, hate the suburbs, and love urban living, but we’ll see.
Translation: This is a list of grievances I’ve suffered while trying to fund my startup in NYC, and if someone here won’t fund me, I’m going to California.
Caterina Fake (Hunch) came back (2/27) with:
- Actually, VCs and Wall Street are two separate worlds and you can encounter one without running into the other.
- Many startups have gotten seed funding in NYC, and in many cases it’s been from a good mix of east and west coast angels.
- Raising money is hard anywhere, but the benefits of avoiding the group think of the Valley outweigh the drawbacks.
- Indeed, specialized technical talent is harder to come by in NYC and you shouldn’t hire out of work Wall Streeters just because they’re former Wall Streeters.
Chris Dixon joined Fake (2/27) in responding to Mireles:
- Dixon never meant to start an Alley vs. Valley debate, and thinks California is a great place for startups.
- California should be NYC’s role model and ally, and we should view the Wall Street mentality focused on financial engineering and metrics as the enemy, not the Valley.
- Mireles is welcome to head to California if he really thinks the grass is so much greener on the other coast.
And this Tuesday (3/2), Warren Lee (VC) added a few additional thoughts:
- NYC has seen an increase in VC funding over the past few years, and it will likely overtake Boston to grab the #2 spot soon.
- Yes, we definitely need a billion dollar company with a big exit to really kick things into gear. Luckily, there are a lot of NYC companies with that potential.
- Finding specialized technical talent is hard, but it’s getting easier as more talent relocates from Boston and the Valley.
- Debating regions misses the point, which is that we should copy the successes of the Valley and add some special NYC sauce to make the scene here truly unique.
- Essentially, the NYC startup movement is headed in the right direction on all fronts, and that momentum is part of what makes it so exciting right now.
So… I think we all can agree:
- Raising money for a startup is difficult anywhere, but maybe a little tougher in NYC because of the Wall Street mentality that exists among some.
- The NYC startup scene is so exciting right now because the building momentum has been a long time coming. Things are better now than they’ve ever been.
- Technical talent is hard to come by.
- NYC needs a billion dollar success story with a big exit.
- Silicon Valley has certain strengths and Silicon Alley should emulate and improve on them.


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